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A mans best friend is his shed – Part one

Post Series: Havant Mens Shed

The Men’s Shed group is an international organisation set up to help alleviate the isolation of men caused by, for example, retiring from work. I sat down with Phill Strawn and Noel Collyer to chat about the Havant Shed.

Introduction

In Australia during the 1990’s, a number of issues were raised about Men’s health. In Australian culture there was little encouragement for men of all ages to socialise and discuss their feelings and wellbeing. This problem was identified at a Men’s Health Conference in the mid-90s and plans were put in place to improve a number of aspects relating to Men’s health.

Austrialian Men's Shed Association and UK Men's Sheds Association Logos

Out of this was born the Men’s Shed organisation where, in Australia alone, there are now more than 1000 Men’s Sheds. The Havant Men’s Shed is one of the a growing number of community workspaces appearing in the UK.

Havant Men’s Shed name stencilled on a wooden bench

 

In the beginning …

How did the Havant Shed come about?
Phill Strawn: John Worley, one of our founder members and currently chairman, discovered there were others in the area with the same idea, and that Council officers and the Charity MIND were already enthusiastic. A gang of four including Andy Pottinger (now of the Portsmouth Shed), Roy Stratton and Ann Chawner called a public meeting which formed the Havant Men’s Shed Association and in August 2014 they were given a key to the former Age Concern building which we now occupy.

Portait of middle aged man

Phill Strawn – Among other things, Chief cook and bottle washer.

Phill: Andy [Pottinger] actually runs two Sheds in Portsmouth. He’s still a member here as well!

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John Worley, Havant Men’s Shed Chairman and one of the founders.

And you were there at the start Noel?
Noel Collyer: I’d worked for British Telecom for thirty-two years as an engineer in the London Westminster area, and took voluntary redundancy in 2012 On the recommendation of a friend I applied for, and got, a job with MIND, specifically to work with Men’s Sheds. She thought that it would be perfect for me. She was right about that [laughs]. I helped John to get it up and running, and as a result, I’ve been able to send along clients from MIND when the occasion warrants it.

Havant Mens Shed Founder Member Noel Collyer

Noel Collyer one of the founder members of the Havant Men’s Shed

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How did you become involved with the Shed Phill?
Phill: Accidentally [laughs]. I came along for one of the regular Hampshire Police Beat surgeries [Link] that was being held here and I bumped into John Worley. Because I was showing an interest in the workshop facilities, he explained what the Shed was all about and invited me to come along the following week for a chat. Anyway, the long and the short of it is that, after that, I just kept returning.

Local neighbourhood police surgery poster

Hampshire police surgery poster

When was that?
Phill: That was February of this year [2015]. John has done a fabulous job of getting this place up and running. If it wasn’t for him, this place wouldn’t exist.

Which came first, the idea or the building?
Phill: Definitely the idea, but we still needed a home. It was through a contact in the Council that John heard about this building. Back then, in 2014, it was in a quite a bad way and had been earmarked for demolition. John put it to the council that if he could get it repaired, thereby saving the Council money, would they let him use it as a base for the Men’s Shed? That’s the short version, anything you can add to that Noel?

Front entrance to the Havant Men’s Shed

Welcome to the Havant Men’s Shed

Noel: As Phill says, the building was dilapidated and run down; also, it was built using asbestos sheeting, so even the cost to demolish it was prohibitive. The Council agreed that we could take it over, as long as we returned it to them in the state in which we received it. Since moving in, we’ve done an awful lot of work to make it a safe and useable workshop and meeting place. So the Council will get a good deal out of it in the end. Everybody wins  [laughs].

How long have you been granted use of the building?
Noel: We’ve been given the lease for fifteen years.

Inside the Havant Men’s Shed

Looking good after refurbishment by the Shed members

 

Inside the Havant Men’s Shed

Inside the Sanctuary

Presumably you have to pay rent?
Noel: The Council have been very generous in that respect and have granted us a peppercorn rent, if asked for.

In legal parlance, a peppercorn is a metaphor for a very small payment, a nominal consideration, used to satisfy the requirements for the creation of a legal contract.

What work is still outstanding?
Phill: It’s gradually all coming together. The two big items still on the list, are to replace the roof and fit out our small kitchen. Fingers crossed, changing the roof will get rid of the asbestos.

Asbestos roof panels

Asbestos roof panels

We could do with changing the windows really, as they’re the old metal frames with single glazing, which makes it pretty darn cold during the winter.

Close up of rusty metal window frame

Rusted window frame in need of some TLC

We’re in the process of putting in new entrance doors. We’ve done the back doors; the front ones are next.

Craftsman at work

Craftsman, Alex Brooks, at work on the new entrance doors.

Band saw operator

Alex Brooks working on the Shed’s band saw.

Replacement Entrance Doors Made by Shed Members

Replacement for rotten entrance doors made by shed members

You had electricity when you moved in?
Phill: Oh yeah, we had all the services. Electricity, gas, water and sewage.

Noel: We had to clear out the drains because they were all backed up, and we put in all new electrics.

Phill: We have a qualified electrician as a member, so he was able to double-check all the rewiring and then get it PAT  tested [Portable Appliance Testing] and approved before use. There’s a multitude of skills within the Shed, there’s not much that we can’t do for ourselves. Obviously, we can’t do the roof because of the asbestos, that requires specialist, approved contractors, of course.

Close up of new electrical consumer unit

All new electrics – safe and sound.

 

Portrait of former electrician Phillip du Preez

Former electrician Phillip du Preez

How would you describe the original idea for the Shed?
Phill: It’s really to bring men together. To stop them being bored at home or getting depressed through lack of companionship, if they don’t have partners or immediate family. It could just be something that has happened in their lives, which has meant they feel isolated. A lot of fellas who retire early feel a bit lost without the structure of a job, or a purpose to get up in the morning. This can lead to ill-health and depression. Something like this place gives them somewhere to go, meet like-minded people, and not feel as though they’ve reached the end of usefulness.

Noel: It recreates a semi-working environment, which many of the older generation have been used to. So, instead of retiring and everything grinding to a halt, they have somewhere to go and small projects to get involved with, to keep their mind and body active.

The shed as a sanctuary sign on the wall of the Havant Men’s Shed

Sign on the wall of the Havant Men’s Shed

How has the Shed been greeted by the local community?
Phill: It’s gone down really well. We’ll get people knocking on the door asking for help to do bits and pieces for, or with, them. We’ve been involved with all sorts of things, from fixing a doorbell, to small-scale landscaping at a local school. We replanted somebody’s rose bed once. Little jobs here and there.

Entrance sign for Bidbury Infants School in Havant Hampshire

Wooden Raised Garden Beds Havant Mens Shed

Raised beds dug over by Havant Men’s Shed

Stack of gardening tools

Tools of the trade

Second style of wooden raised garden beds built by members of Havant Mens Shed

I’ve read that you’ve been involved with some local charities?
Phill: – Yes, we’ve done some work for Naomi House [web link], Rowans Hospice [web link] and the Elizabeth Foundation for the deaf [web link]. We have an ongoing project with the Rowans to replace and repair some benches. That involves metalwork and carpentry, just the sort of thing that we like really.

Mixed charity logotypes


[John Worley]
“Our aim is to undertake community projects as
thanks for all the support people have given us
Bench designed and built by The Havant Men’s Shed for the Elizabeth Foundation

Bench designed and built by The Havant Men’s Shed for the Elizabeth Foundation

Where do you get your materials from?
Phill: Actually, the ironwork for two of the benches was spotted on a scrap heap in a Worcester pub and we had some oak timber given to us by Stansted Park, House and Gardens. We’ve been fortunate to have some donations from local businesses in the form or goods or money. Covers of Chichester have been extremely kind to us. They’ve given us new timber and some oak planking. We’ve been fortunate to have money donations from the likes of ASDA, Sainsbury’s, Waitrose, a lot of big stores. If it wasn’t for this generosity we wouldn’t exist, at least not as we are now.

Standsted House and Gardens Sawmill

Stansted House and Gardens

Some wood donated by local businesses

Wood donated by local businesses

a selection of local businesses who are supporting The Havant Men's Shed

A selection of local businesses supporting The Havant Men’s Shed

Sounds like you have the support of everyone
Phill: It’s been going very well really. We’re also in the middle of working something out with the local fire brigade as well. There’s the possibility that some of our members, those who have 4 x 4 vehicles, might be called on in an emergency to ferry people from A to B, if necessary. The blokes in here are eager to do anything to help out, rather than sit at home and turn into vegetables [laughs]

Havant Men’s Shed wooden benches

Alternative style of wooden bench

Do you know how many Sheds there are?
Noel: A lot more in Australia, 1000 has often been quoted, because that’s where it all started. But apparently where we are in the south of England, we have more than anywhere else in the UK, per capita. The number is growing all the time, but they’re listed on the UK Shed website.

Phill: There are at least seven within a fifty mile radius of this building; probably more than that.

Are there any restrictions on how many Sheds there can be in an area?
Phill: None at all. There’s another one in the Havant area, less than a mile from here.

You should be here ...

You should be here …

That leads on to the obvious question, are Sheds only for men?
Phill: Historically, they have been, and it would be fair to say that the majority are attended by men. But, despite the name of the umbrella group [UK Men’s Shed Association] there is nothing that says they have to be. In fact, there’s a Ladies Shed [Horndean Ladies Shed] just up the road in Waterlooville.  We have some ladies with admin roles who are strong supporters behind the scenes here at The Havant Shed. They have defended the right of men to have their own space in the same way that women have it at their clubs – The WI [Women’s Institute] being an example. They visit occasionally to talk to the guys and see how it’s going, what’s needed and give support as required. We have bookkeepers, and Council employees, who are wizards when it comes to looking after the finances etc. We’d be lost without them.

Although Sheds mostly attract older men, some have included men of any age, women and young people. Whichever activities are pursued, the essence of a Shed is not a building, which some don’t have, but the network of relationships between the members.
Ann Chawner one of the original founders of the Havant Men’s Shed

Ann Chawner, one of the original founders of the Havant Men’s Shed

How many lady members does Havant Shed have?

Phill: I think it’s about five at the moment.

Noel: The title of Men’s Shed is a bit of a misnomer really, but it’s tied to their history and origins in Australia.

Phill: … no matter who comes in here, we always make them feel welcome. We’re not rotten to them, we might take the micky a little bit. But it’s all good-humoured.

No age limits on those who join?
Phill: No, our current oldest member is a gentleman who’s 88. Just because someone is older and not so active, doesn’t mean that they should be excluded. If you only want somewhere to have a cup of coffee and a chat, that’s fine. If you want to get more involved, that’s OK as well.

Portait of older gentleman

Jack Kendrick – Young at heart

OUTRO

For further information about the Havant Men’s Shed and the organisation in general, feel free to make contact, drop by for an informal chat, or take a look at the Internet links below.

Stay tuned for part two – Men at work 

 

Web Links and References of interest

Havant Men’s Shed
Web: http://www.havantshed.org.uk/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Havant-Mens-Shed-515200558585956/timeline/
Twitter: @HavantMensShed

UK Men’s Shed organisation
http://menssheds.org.uk/

Australian Men’s Shed organisation
http://www.mensshed.org/what-is-a-men’s-shed/.aspx

Horndean Ladies Shed
email: horndeanladiesshed@yahoo.co.uk
Merchistoun Hall,
106 Portsmouth Road,
Horndean,
PO8 9LJ

Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men%27s_Sheds#Men.27s_Shed_Associations_and_Affiliated_Associations

The Guardian Newspaper
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/oct/07/mens-sheds-movement-isolation-loneliness-mental-health

2014 documentary about the Men’s Shed movement
http://www.bettershedthandead.co.uk/

Charities and organisations working with The Havant Men’s Shed

MIND
http://www.easthantsmind.org/

The Rowans Hospice
http://www.rowanshospice.co.uk/

The Elizabeth Foundation
http://www.elizabeth-foundation.org/

Naomi House & Jacksplace
https://www.naomihouse.org.uk/

Hampshire neighbourhood police
http://www.hampshire.police.uk/internet/my-neighbourhood/havant/havant/barncroft-and-bedhampton/

The Race for Life cancer research
http://raceforlife.cancerresearchuk.org/index.html

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